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This replay shows that AD spam is just insane. We need a hotfix that would:
-Return the AD blackhole armour to 1.11 readme status
-Make the ROCKETS (from migs and vx's) actually DAMAGE the AD that are guarding areal units.

Untill then. Soviet players, read these tips, they will help you fight it:
1. USE HAMMER TANKS secondary to nullify their effects
2. Don't use migs as they can't do a thing
3. Use Teror drones to slow them down
4. Use flak trooper spam
5. Use tesla coils (though they can easily be countered by the allied support powers and vindicators]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272723.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272723.page GMT
This replay shows that AD spam is just insane. We need a hotfix that would:
-Return the AD blackhole armour to 1.11 readme status
-Make the ROCKETS (from migs and vx's) actually DAMAGE the AD that are guarding areal units.

Untill then. Soviet players, read these tips, they will help you fight it:
1. USE HAMMER TANKS secondary to nullify their effects
2. Don't use migs as they can't do a thing
3. Use Teror drones to slow them down
4. Use flak trooper spam
5. Use tesla coils (though they can easily be countered by the allied support powers and vindicators[/quote]

Assault destroyers guns su.ck they had to do something with them or they couldve made their gun better ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272730.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272730.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272732.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272732.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means[/quote]

Oh really. I will demonstrate if we meet in AM. Untill then watch the replay and THEN comment, there are a few more examples, search for them on gr.org.

Also 3 mirages with a laser painted guardian tank can barely scratch them (+hightech).

@Yuri
Don't post crap, their damage is quite allright when amassed. 3-4 shots are required to kill a hammer tank.And I think 3 for a Mirage tank.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272745.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272745.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272747.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272747.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. [/quote]

Please stop spamming a thread with useless comments and suggestions. I'm talking about a real issue here, not spekulation on when and how it will be fixed. I'm also giving hints on possible counters (though not cost effective).]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272757.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272757.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. [/quote]

Or, just play another game and stick with it! :O

]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272760.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272760.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means[/quote]

Oh really. I will demonstrate if we meet in AM. Untill then watch the replay and THEN comment, there are a few more examples, search for them on gr.org.

Also 3 mirages with a laser painted guardian tank can barely scratch them (+hightech).

@Yuri
Don't post crap, their damage is quite allright when amassed. 3-4 shots are required to kill a hammer tank.And I think 3 for a Mirage tank.[/quote]

do a akula vs destroyer which does more damage of course it does more to smaller units but why does it have to have a crappy damage to akulas naginatas ext. oh when amassed so what wins amassed assualt destroyers or amassed akulas or naginatas ....well
oh and i dont think the black hole armor buff was not nessasary so ya.....]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272766.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272766.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means[/quote]

Oh really. I will demonstrate if we meet in AM. Untill then watch the replay and THEN comment, there are a few more examples, search for them on gr.org.

Also 3 mirages with a laser painted guardian tank can barely scratch them (+hightech).

@Yuri
Don't post crap, their damage is quite allright when amassed. 3-4 shots are required to kill a hammer tank.And I think 3 for a Mirage tank.[/quote]

do a akula vs destroyer which does more damage of course it does more to smaller units but why does it have to have a crappy damage to akulas naginatas ext. oh when amassed so what wins amassed assualt destroyers or amassed akulas or naginatas ....well[/quote]

Amassed ASSAULT DESTROYERS win vs amassed akulas OR NAGINATAS. But since you're a wiseguy that comments without even watching the replay you really should just quit posting rubbish. about 5-6 ultratorpedoes are required to take out 1 AD in blackhole armour mode (if not more).
EDIT: It was necesary, I proposed it, but they made a mistake, instead of a 35% boost they mistyped a code entry and made it 75%.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272770.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272770.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means[/quote]

Oh really. I will demonstrate if we meet in AM. Untill then watch the replay and THEN comment, there are a few more examples, search for them on gr.org.

Also 3 mirages with a laser painted guardian tank can barely scratch them (+hightech).

@Yuri
Don't post crap, their damage is quite allright when amassed. 3-4 shots are required to kill a hammer tank.And I think 3 for a Mirage tank.[/quote]

do a akula vs destroyer which does more damage of course it does more to smaller units but why does it have to have a crappy damage to akulas naginatas ext. oh when amassed so what wins amassed assualt destroyers or amassed akulas or naginatas ....well[/quote]

Amassed ASSAULT DESTROYERS win vs amassed akulas OR NAGINATAS. But since you're a wiseguy that comments without even watching the replay you really should just quit posting rubbish. about 5-6 ultratorpedoes are required to take out 1 AD in blackhole armour mode (if not more).[/quote]
look READ MY POST i said the assult destroyer buff was not nessasary ok look all im saying is a akula vs destroyer akula wins
look i say nerf the destroyer YOUR RIGHT about their black hole being op ok make shure u read this]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272774.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272774.page GMT At least now there a little more useful.
There not op by any means[/quote]

Oh really. I will demonstrate if we meet in AM. Untill then watch the replay and THEN comment, there are a few more examples, search for them on gr.org.

Also 3 mirages with a laser painted guardian tank can barely scratch them (+hightech).

@Yuri
Don't post crap, their damage is quite allright when amassed. 3-4 shots are required to kill a hammer tank.And I think 3 for a Mirage tank.[/quote]

do a akula vs destroyer which does more damage of course it does more to smaller units but why does it have to have a crappy damage to akulas naginatas ext. oh when amassed so what wins amassed assualt destroyers or amassed akulas or naginatas ....well[/quote]

Amassed ASSAULT DESTROYERS win vs amassed akulas OR NAGINATAS. But since you're a wiseguy that comments without even watching the replay you really should just quit posting rubbish. about 5-6 ultratorpedoes are required to take out 1 AD in blackhole armour mode (if not more).[/quote]
look READ MY POST i said the assult destroyer buff was not nessasary ok look all im saying [color=red]is a akula vs destroyer akula wins[/color]
look i say nerf the destroyer YOUR RIGHT about their black hole being op ok make shure u read this[/quote]

Ok ok, but they don't win and that's the problem. In order for the allied fleet to win the allies should combine ad's + riptides AT LEAST. Not just spam a unit that has almost mcv like health when it's secondary is on. It's a mistake ea made, wasn't intentional. Besides I've used drednaughts on secondary + akulas to no avail. Mass AD's own in 1.11 ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272792.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272792.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. [/quote]

Please stop spamming a thread with useless comments and suggestions. I'm talking about a real issue here, not spekulation on when and how it will be fixed. I'm also giving hints on possible counters (though not cost effective).[/quote]

u think they r useless because you dont like it.

edit: looks like u r flaming every1 who is against u, good job. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272822.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272822.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. [/quote]

Please stop spamming a thread with useless comments and suggestions. I'm talking about a real issue here, not spekulation on when and how it will be fixed. I'm also giving hints on possible counters (though not cost effective).[/quote]

u think they r useless because you dont like it.

edit: looks like u r flaming every1 who is against u, good job. [/quote]

Shut the *** up, you retard. Don't you understand that EA made a mistake, made the AD blindingly powerful, and as the game is now, the balance of the entire game is f@@ked???

What is wrong with you people???]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272928.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272928.page GMT
For the match, cccd and myself had a great sea battle. He spammed the ADs, mixed with riptides and hydrofoils on secondary. Also he had 1 AC later in the game.
I had to spam nagintas, shoguns, yaris to suicide and yuriko every now and then to help.

I don't know if he was microing the AD everytime with their secondary but he did at times.

All in all the AD are now very powerful, BUT they can be beat because we came out with the victory. I have the replay if you would like to watch, it was a very long game.

SN1P3RS4U]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272936.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272936.page GMT
For the match, cccd and myself had a great sea battle. He spammed the ADs, mixed with riptides and hydrofoils on secondary. Also he had 1 AC later in the game.
I had to spam nagintas, shoguns, yaris to suicide and yuriko every now and then to help.

I don't know if he was microing the AD everytime with their secondary but he did at times.

All in all the AD are now very powerful, BUT they can be beat because we came out with the victory. I have the replay if you would like to watch, it was a very long game.

SN1P3RS4U[/quote]

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that EA made a mistake while patching the AD, and that the AD is seriously overpowered now.

The Allied player might not have been trying to abuse the AD secondary ability, but if you use them in numbers, they can't be defeated. I am interested in seeing that replay.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272940.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272940.page GMT
I just wanted to point out that they still can be beat. I haven't played against it in 1v1 yet, but I assume that it would be just as hard if not harder to beat (although we pretty much went 1v1 on the sea battle for a while, but I don't know how much he was helping his mate)

Here's the replay, hope yall enjoy =)
http://www.gamereplays.org/redalert3/replays.php?game=6&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=86404

SN1P3RS4U]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272949.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272949.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272965.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272965.page GMT
ea made coding error.

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=507164]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272968.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272968.page GMT
ea made coding error.

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=507164[/quote]

Yup I was playing against Tehnique yesterday. Outplayed him, took out his pk spam with 1 spy ifv. Had tanks comming towards his base, infiltrated his ref and teched to T3. He fended off my tank assault just by using javelins and 2 ad's. I could have saved the tanks but I suicided them for taking out a ref because I was AT T3 and had 3 mirages and 1 guradian with a laser pointer WITH HIGH TECHNOLOGY. The firepower of those mirages now was DOUBLED. It was like having 6 of them! Let's see 2 AD's + a few javelins + tier 2 = not more than 5100$ VERSUS 3 mirages + Guardian + tier2 + tier3 = 10300. NOT EVEN 1 AD died. Only the infantry thanks to mirage splash damage.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272972.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272972.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272983.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/272983.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273003.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273003.page GMT Suddenly there were shoguns on the map. Had this been 1.10 it would of been game over for me. However in the time I took for them to travel the long way round to my base, I'd built a dockyard and teched that particular expansion to t2 and started building ADs. The particular wave of shoguns was bombed to death by my vindis and riptides chased them off.
Next time he didnt leave them undefended taking other ships and seawings with him.
By this time I had amassed plenty of ADs, and microing the bha to the ones with the most health,I only ever lost any to lucky shogun shots.
He had been going navy the whole game, and I only realised by the time t3 ships were rolling in. However my microed ads destroyed everything he had on the water with very very few losses.

I agree they need to fix this mistake. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273012.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273012.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273054.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273054.page GMT though they will probably fix it in the next patch which will probably come out in a few months, time is short when you are having fun, go play some other game in the mean time. [/quote]

Please stop spamming a thread with useless comments and suggestions. I'm talking about a real issue here, not spekulation on when and how it will be fixed. I'm also giving hints on possible counters (though not cost effective).[/quote]

u think they r useless because you dont like it.

edit: looks like u r flaming every1 who is against u, good job. [/quote]

Shut the *** up, you retard. Don't you understand that EA made a mistake, made the AD blindingly powerful, and as the game is now, the balance of the entire game is f@@ked???

What is wrong with you people???[/quote]

...........

you sure live up to your name don't you. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273055.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273055.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273062.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273062.page GMT
VXs *** ADs.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273065.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273065.page GMT
VXs *** ADs.[/quote]

So he brings along 1 or 2 ifvs without engies in...
Or if they are on the water, a couple of hydrofoils will rip through those vxs before they put a dent into the bha.

Vxs dont stand a chance if he brings just a bit of AA under the shield.

Also, what happens if your not japan. Units have got to be counterable by all factions somehow.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273072.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273072.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273074.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273074.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

shoguns get pwned by allied navy now.
Apocs wont be able to grind or shoot the AD enough to destroy it before the guardians have finished it off.

And what happens if you are allies aswell, who happened to go air??]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273075.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273075.page GMT
Yesterday I lost all of the games in which I tried to use AD´s, and won all of the games except one (a single vindi + AF left for the opponent) where my opponents used AD´s.

Jus sayin´]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273077.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273077.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273078.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273078.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

If you've read my other posts, Ive already stated that it is an obvious programming error (Also known as a bug). I'm not defending the fact that it's armour is blindingly overpowering, but the fact that you guys, as always, overexaggerate everything.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273088.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273088.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

If you've read my other posts, Ive already stated that it is an obvious programming error (Also known as a bug). I'm not defending the fact that it's armour is blindingly overpowering, but the fact that you guys, as always, overexaggerate everything.[/quote]
Well your argument for the overexaggeration is a fail. You don't say "oh build Tier 3 units" when a massive army of Tier 2 units rolls at you. The game doesn't work that way. Teching is tricky in RA3, not like in CNC3 where you have the money to tech and building massive armies at the same time without even expanding. In order to tech in RA3 you either need to have expanded so you can defend yourself while you're teching (otherwise teching becomes far too risky and there's not enough benefit) or you hope that once you tech you'll get an autowin, aka Shoguns which aren't even autowin anymore. You have to find a Tier 2 or Tier 1 counter.

The only real counter to ADs that I can see are Vindicators. They just happen to be perfect for this scenario, fast enough to avoid the majority of IFV missiles, packing massive amounts of firepower that they can unleash on a single target before they have time to get damaged. VXes or twinblades would die to IFVs. Vindicators don't.

And as for any counters to the AD on the ground, remember that the AD is ultimately a support unit. It's not the bulk of the enemy force, the enemy will always have PKs, guardians, javelins, IFVs, whatever along, just like nobody builds only Cryocopters. However, it's a support unit that totally doubles or triples the effectivness of the army it supports. Whatever you build is so busy trying to kill the AD that they can't hit the rest of the army and die as a result.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273095.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273095.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

If you've read my other posts, Ive already stated that it is an obvious programming error (Also known as a bug). I'm not defending the fact that it's armour is blindingly overpowering, but the fact that you guys, as always, overexaggerate everything.[/quote]
Well your argument for the overexaggeration is a fail. You don't say "oh build Tier 3 units" when a massive army of Tier 2 units rolls at you. The game doesn't work that way. Teching is tricky in RA3, not like in CNC3 where you have the money to tech and building massive armies at the same time without even expanding. In order to tech in RA3 you either need to have expanded so you can defend yourself while you're teching (otherwise teching becomes far too risky and there's not enough benefit) or you hope that once you tech you'll get an autowin, aka Shoguns which aren't even autowin anymore. You have to find a Tier 2 or Tier 1 counter.

The only real counter to ADs that I can see are Vindicators. They just happen to be perfect for this scenario, fast enough to avoid the majority of IFV missiles, packing massive amounts of firepower that they can unleash on a single target before they have time to get damaged. VXes or twinblades would die to IFVs. Vindicators don't.

And as for any counters to the AD on the ground, remember that the AD is ultimately a support unit. It's not the bulk of the enemy force, the enemy will always have PKs, guardians, javelins, IFVs, whatever along, just like nobody builds only Cryocopters. However, it's a support unit that totally doubles or triples the effectivness of the army it supports. Whatever you build is so busy trying to kill the AD that they can't hit the rest of the army and die as a result.[/quote]

Allies are very easy to harras if they don't build an airfield, all it takes is a few sickles / tengus.

They will never get T2 -> GG.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273106.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273106.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273107.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273107.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273115.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273115.page GMT
i dont mean to offend any1, just found this pic extremely funny ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273119.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273119.page GMT
[img]http://www.afunnystuff.com/forumpics/retard.jpg[/img]]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273122.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273122.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

If you've read my other posts, Ive already stated that it is an obvious programming error (Also known as a bug). I'm not defending the fact that it's armour is blindingly overpowering, but the fact that you guys, as always, overexaggerate everything.[/quote]
Well your argument for the overexaggeration is a fail. You don't say "oh build Tier 3 units" when a massive army of Tier 2 units rolls at you. The game doesn't work that way. Teching is tricky in RA3, not like in CNC3 where you have the money to tech and building massive armies at the same time without even expanding. In order to tech in RA3 you either need to have expanded so you can defend yourself while you're teching (otherwise teching becomes far too risky and there's not enough benefit) or you hope that once you tech you'll get an autowin, aka Shoguns which aren't even autowin anymore. You have to find a Tier 2 or Tier 1 counter.

The only real counter to ADs that I can see are Vindicators. They just happen to be perfect for this scenario, fast enough to avoid the majority of IFV missiles, packing massive amounts of firepower that they can unleash on a single target before they have time to get damaged. VXes or twinblades would die to IFVs. Vindicators don't.

And as for any counters to the AD on the ground, remember that the AD is ultimately a support unit. It's not the bulk of the enemy force, the enemy will always have PKs, guardians, javelins, IFVs, whatever along, just like nobody builds only Cryocopters. However, it's a support unit that totally doubles or triples the effectivness of the army it supports. Whatever you build is so busy trying to kill the AD that they can't hit the rest of the army and die as a result.[/quote]

Allies are very easy to harras if they don't build an airfield, all it takes is a few sickles / tengus.

They will never get T2 -> GG.[/quote]

Walls + Multi Gunner Turret anyone? Javelins at 300$ + garrisons anyone?

Only thing than can really hurt well protected allies early is suicide Tengus with Honourable Discharge, but that's OverPowered IMHO too.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273124.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273124.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

If you've read my other posts, Ive already stated that it is an obvious programming error (Also known as a bug). I'm not defending the fact that it's armour is blindingly overpowering, but the fact that you guys, as always, overexaggerate everything.[/quote]
Well your argument for the overexaggeration is a fail. You don't say "oh build Tier 3 units" when a massive army of Tier 2 units rolls at you. The game doesn't work that way. Teching is tricky in RA3, not like in CNC3 where you have the money to tech and building massive armies at the same time without even expanding. In order to tech in RA3 you either need to have expanded so you can defend yourself while you're teching (otherwise teching becomes far too risky and there's not enough benefit) or you hope that once you tech you'll get an autowin, aka Shoguns which aren't even autowin anymore. You have to find a Tier 2 or Tier 1 counter.

The only real counter to ADs that I can see are Vindicators. They just happen to be perfect for this scenario, fast enough to avoid the majority of IFV missiles, packing massive amounts of firepower that they can unleash on a single target before they have time to get damaged. VXes or twinblades would die to IFVs. Vindicators don't.

And as for any counters to the AD on the ground, remember that the AD is ultimately a support unit. It's not the bulk of the enemy force, the enemy will always have PKs, guardians, javelins, IFVs, whatever along, just like nobody builds only Cryocopters. However, it's a support unit that totally doubles or triples the effectivness of the army it supports. Whatever you build is so busy trying to kill the AD that they can't hit the rest of the army and die as a result.[/quote]

Allies are very easy to harras if they don't build an airfield, all it takes is a few sickles / tengus.

They will never get T2 -> GG.[/quote]

Walls + Multi Gunner Turret anyone? Javelins at 300$ + garrisons anyone?

Only thing than can really hurt well protected allies early is suicide Tengus with Honourable Discharge, but that's OverPowered IMHO too.[/quote]

How can they afford to deck themselves out with javelins, turrets, ADs, guardians and pks?

It would take a lot longer to make all that then it would to make 1-2 shoguns / Naginatas / Seawings.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273125.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273125.page GMT Allies are very easy to harras if they don't build an airfield, all it takes is a few sickles / tengus.

[/quote]

Who is dumb enough to [b]not[/b] go airfield. The advantage is just too good, thats what a lot of allied players do. Because once you get AF you become unharrassable, especially vs soviets early game.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273142.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273142.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273144.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273144.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC[/quote]
Thanks for posting a response.

n_n Steam..... ugh]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273148.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273148.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC[/quote]

See? EA do listen
]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273168.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273168.page GMT but at what cost? like 5 topics and a crap load of rants later. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273201.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273201.page GMT but at what cost? like 5 topics and a crap load of rants later. [/quote]

oh please you barely put up a fuss about it.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273209.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273209.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

You'd have what, 1 shogun? Moreover 2 ADs pwn 1 shogun anyways, and 5 guardians + 2 ADs kill an Apoc.

Stop trying to defend the AD, it's blindingly OP and if you haven't even encountered the tactic online don't even THINK about defending it.

@Malle: Yeah, that's as Allies. [/quote]

so he rly went from up to op?

luls]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273213.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273213.page GMT but at what cost? like 5 topics and a crap load of rants later. [/quote]

oh please you barely put up a fuss about it.[/quote]

I didnt fuss about AD at all, only at the topics and the angry mob.

plus my surprise is legit since there are so many old well known bugs/issues that EA hasn't bothered to fix. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273219.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273219.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC[/quote]

Thanks for understanding EALA. Apoc will you adress more issues now that you guys are prepared for a hotfix. Like PK vs buildings/tanks damage reduction and bullfrog 100$ cost decrease in order to compensate for flak trooper cost increase, honourable discharge tweaking ect... Either way I'm glad to have heard a responce this fast ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273256.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273256.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC[/quote]

Thnx Apoc, we needed this fix yesterday, but since you know about it already and acknowledged, that a fix will come, it doesn't matter, i hope you get this done by at least the end of next week. Remember don't let us down.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273273.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273273.page GMT

In the last 2 days of AD abuse, I haven't lost a single match where I got an AD out. So ridiculously OP.
Glad to see it's being addressed.

Good job EA! Now fix the random-players-faction-hidden change too.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273277.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273277.page GMT

In the last 2 days of AD abuse, I haven't lost a single match where I got an AD out. So ridiculously OP.
Glad to see it's being addressed.

Good job EA! [b]Now fix the random-players-faction-hidden change too.[/b][/quote]

not a bug pls scout]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273280.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273280.page GMT
not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273283.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273283.page GMT
not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.[/quote]

Not in this thread you don't! Scram with your whining about random!]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273293.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273293.page GMT
not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.[/quote]

Not in this thread you don't! Scram with your whining about random![/quote]
And on top of it if they come after you first, you will know what faction they are unless they don't scout either. lol]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273295.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273295.page GMT
Thanks!
APOC]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273301.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273301.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273309.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273309.page GMT
Thanks!
APOC[/quote]

Well, I appreciate the expectation setting APOC.

I agree that random-faction changes aren't 'game breaking'. I just want to emphasize that they're 'fun breaking'... and I know that above all else, you want this game to be fun. Currently, I'm only auto-matching on random (like everyone else who wants to be competitive), and that means less time playing the faction that I enjoy most.

Cheers.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273319.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273319.page GMT
not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.[/quote]

Not in this thread you don't! Scram with your whining about random![/quote]

QFT my fellow random player

also spoooky it aint fun brakin, jsut means u hav to get up ur behind and scout lol, cuz even if u know wut faction ur enemy is and u dont scout ure probs dead]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273327.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273327.page GMT
not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.[/quote]

Not in this thread you don't! Scram with your whining about random![/quote]

QFT my fellow random player

also spoooky it aint fun brakin, jsut means u hav to get up ur behind and scout lol, cuz even if u know wut faction ur enemy is and u dont scout ure probs dead[/quote]

And your opponent does a Cryorush, too bad for you it's GG already then ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273356.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273356.page GMT
and if ure empire.....well pray that is a big map so u can deploy ur wf lol

or that he sux at it]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273367.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273367.page GMT
and if ure empire.....well pray that is a big map so u can deploy ur wf lol

or that he sux at it[/quote]

Nah, cryocopter health is nerfed, flak turret can be built in no time and it's a total protection. Spam flaks for the second ref. Oh and btw TARGET THE VINDI, not the cryocopter if you don't have a turret ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273374.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273374.page GMT
and if ure empire.....well pray that is a big map so u can deploy ur wf lol

or that he sux at it[/quote]

Nah, cryocopter health is nerfed, flak turret can be built in no time and it's a total protection. Spam flaks for the second ref. Oh and btw TARGET THE VINDI, not the cryocopter if you don't have a turret [/quote]

well duh]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273379.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273379.page GMT
and if ure empire.....well pray that is a big map so u can deploy ur wf lol

or that he sux at it[/quote]

Nah, cryocopter health is nerfed, flak turret can be built in no time and it's a total protection. Spam flaks for the second ref. Oh and btw TARGET THE VINDI, not the cryocopter if you don't have a turret [/quote]

well duh[/quote]

Sry, wrong quote: It was a reply to Wertiliq ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273381.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273381.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273382.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273382.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273476.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273476.page GMT
Dude, it doesn't matter if they were beatable in this match (JFYI i didn't watch it all). If EA made a mistake, it has to be rectified imediatly. ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273569.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273569.page GMT
Dude, it doesn't matter if they were beatable in this match (JFYI i didn't watch it all). If EA made a mistake, it has to be rectified imediatly. [/quote]

ad bh armor was suposed to give 35% extra armor, right now it gives 130% lool so ya its a bug]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273587.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273587.page GMT
He has attacked my base with 5+ad's combined with riptides AND cryocopters. Migs couldn't touch the cryocopters. The only way I fended off that attack was WITH TWINBLADES. He didn't have any apollo fighters at that time. If he did have EVEN 1 I would have been toast right there. That bought me some time to strike back. Plus I got lucky with killing his mcv with a KIROV while he had 8 apollos roaming around (gotta love it's secondary lol) ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273672.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273672.page GMT
He has attacked my base with 5+ad's combined with riptides AND cryocopters. Migs couldn't touch the cryocopters. The only way I fended off that attack was WITH TWINBLADES. He didn't have any apollo fighters at that time. If he did have EVEN 1 I would have been toast right there. That bought me some time to strike back. Plus I got lucky with killing his mcv with a KIROV while he had 8 apollos roaming around (gotta love it's secondary lol) [/quote]

So he attacked your base with a combined force and your complaining about having to counter it?

Try countering a force of Bullfrogs, Apocalypse Tanks, and Bears as Allies. Its one thing to complain if he stormed your base with a bunch of Assault Destroyers only and you couldn't counter them, but in this case your just making a fuss that a unit that was useless for so long suddenly requires some strategy to beat. ADs could *** up MiG missiles long before the patch, its just never happened to you before because people didn't build them.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273695.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273695.page GMT
He has attacked my base with 5+ad's combined with riptides AND cryocopters. Migs couldn't touch the cryocopters. The only way I fended off that attack was WITH TWINBLADES. He didn't have any apollo fighters at that time. If he did have EVEN 1 I would have been toast right there. That bought me some time to strike back. Plus I got lucky with killing his mcv with a KIROV while he had 8 apollos roaming around (gotta love it's secondary lol) [/quote]

So he attacked your base with a combined force and your complaining about having to counter it?

Try countering a force of Bullfrogs, Apocalypse Tanks, and Bears as Allies. Its one thing to complain if he stormed your base with a bunch of Assault Destroyers only and you couldn't counter them, but in this case your just making a fuss that a unit that was useless for so long suddenly requires some strategy to beat. ADs could *** up MiG missiles long before the patch, its just never happened to you before because people didn't build them.[/quote]

the ad black hole armor gives it 130% more armor.........]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273697.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273697.page GMT
He has attacked my base with 5+ad's combined with riptides AND cryocopters. Migs couldn't touch the cryocopters. The only way I fended off that attack was WITH TWINBLADES. He didn't have any apollo fighters at that time. If he did have EVEN 1 I would have been toast right there. That bought me some time to strike back. Plus I got lucky with killing his mcv with a KIROV while he had 8 apollos roaming around (gotta love it's secondary lol) [/quote]

So he attacked your base with a combined force and your complaining about having to counter it?

Try countering a force of Bullfrogs, Apocalypse Tanks, and Bears as Allies. Its one thing to complain if he stormed your base with a bunch of Assault Destroyers only and you couldn't counter them, but in this case your just making a fuss that a unit that was useless for so long suddenly requires some strategy to beat. ADs could *** up MiG missiles long before the patch, its just never happened to you before because people didn't build them.[/quote]

*facepalm*

Why can't people wrap their minds around the fact that just because a unit can be countered doesn't mean it's not OP?

ADs are first and foremost support units. That obviously means that nobody can spam them and win. However, they are OP because THEY MAKE ANY FORCE TWICE AS POWERFUL. A single AD adds the health of an MCV across all your units, and for what? $300 more than a Striker-VX. It makes any assault force three times more difficult to kill. There's no Tier 2 unit in the game that can kill ADs quickly, and because of that the main, damage-dealing portion of the enemy force runs complete unchecked, able to kill you without taking any damage in the process, meaning even if you do kill the AD you'll have lost so much of your forces that you're dead.

An AD on blackhole armor + 1 guardian vs the same cost in Tsunamis? Tsunamis get decimated. Same cost in Guardians vs same cost in Tsunamis? Much closer fight.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273746.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273746.page GMT
Thanks!
APOC[/quote]
Hi Apoc
I'm really impressed by the support RA3 is getting. It's great that this is going to be fixed. However, there are still a few game-breaking bugs and exploits, and I hope these can be fixed in 1.12. This includes the bullfrog exploit which you said would be fixed for 1.11, but wasn't. Please read the red entries on the second post, here: http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/list/16867.page
Thanks and keep up the great work!]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273798.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273798.page GMT
Dude, it doesn't matter if they were beatable in this match (JFYI i didn't watch it all). If EA made a mistake, it has to be rectified imediatly. [/quote]

ad bh armor was suposed to give 35% extra armor, right now it gives 130% lool so ya its a bug[/quote]

Its 65% you quere

L2Statistics]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273816.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273816.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273825.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273825.page GMT
Lolk ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273835.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273835.page GMT
so if EA made a coding error and made the hammer tank have the same hp/defense as an mcv, you would be saying "learn to deal with it" ?

I think you should stick to playing ko.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273904.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273904.page GMT ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273906.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273906.page GMT [/quote]

I'm sure they would still be "useful" if they were only as good as the patch said they would be. right now they are about as "useful" as shoguns used to be. (ie you build a few of them and you cant lose)]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273961.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273961.page GMT [/quote]

I've used them effectively in 1.10 aswell. The poor japaese player didn't know what to do and was screaming at me: HOW DO I COUNTER IT BTW it was only 1 AD with a bunch of infantry I've used on snow plow. 90% of the players turret push on that map so they could even dream of doing anything original ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273971.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/273971.page GMT
You could build shoguns in that time FFS.

Or apocs.[/quote]

Please stop posting like you know something about the game, like you know how long it takes to build things, and like you understand how the game balances in terms of time/force effectiveness ratio. Allied fanboy detected. Please be quiet.

[quote=91_Slavik][quote=psycho063][quote=Spoooky][quote=91_Slavik]

not a bug pls scout[/quote]

I didn't say it's a bug.

I said it's a bad change, and it needs to be undone.[/quote]

Not in this thread you don't! Scram with your whining about random![/quote]

QFT my fellow random player

also spoooky it aint fun brakin, jsut means u hav to get up ur behind and scout lol, cuz even if u know wut faction ur enemy is and u dont scout ure probs dead[/quote]

He probably does scout, he just wants to have his build-order down before that thirty-second time delay. He also doesn't wanna be forced to build a barracks. I understand, since I'm a soviet player and I sometimes wf rush.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274000.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274000.page GMT
"Hey guys,

So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC"]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274284.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274284.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274296.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274296.page GMT
Yes it would make 1000000000000 times more sense that way (i thought [b]he[/b] was Apoc )]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274321.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274321.page GMT
Yes it would make 1000000000000 times more sense that way (i thought [b]he[/b] was Apoc )[/quote]

2POC is APOCs pet ]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274330.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274330.page GMT
Yes it would make 1000000000000 times more sense that way (i thought [b]he[/b] was Apoc )[/quote]

2POC is APOCs [b][color=red]abused[/color][/b] pet [/quote]

APOC shot 2POC in the face with an Assault Rifle! D:]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274345.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274345.page GMT http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274353.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274353.page GMT
Yes it would make 1000000000000 times more sense that way (i thought [b]he[/b] was Apoc )[/quote]

2POC is APOCs [b][color=red]abused[/color][/b] pet [/quote]

APOC shot 2POC in the face with an Assault Rifle! D:[/quote]

oh noes!

wait, if its the conscript assault rifle its ok]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274359.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274359.page GMT
Yes it would make 1000000000000 times more sense that way (i thought [b]he[/b] was Apoc )[/quote]

2POC is APOCs [b][color=red]abused[/color][/b] pet [/quote]

APOC shot 2POC in the face with an Assault Rifle! D:[/quote]

oh noes!

wait, if its the conscript assault rifle its ok[/quote]

I'm too lazy to bring up the BCPT episode, but judging from what I remember, I think it was a GD-2 Rifle.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274363.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/274363.page GMT
So it turns out this was an unfortunate XML error in the patch, we're fully aware and are going to make every effort to fix it as soon as possible. Due to the 4th of July Holiday weekend, we are unable to acquire all the deploy resources to put a patch out this week. So it will not be fixed this week, unfortunately. Apologies for that but the timing isn't great.

This balance error is impossible for us to monitor and control as its a simple balance exploit that can be abused easily. While we can't tell everyone to please stay away from using the Assault Destroyer in such a fashion, we do politely ask that you refrain from exploiting it as such.

I will let you guys know next week what the outlook is for a hot-fix. The fix is a simple XML modification, as many of you would know, but we will need to go through all of our STEAM, MAC, etc deploy channels to get it out, which is what takes some extra time.

Apologies for this error, we'll address it as soon as possible next week.

-APOC[/quote]

Hotfix as RA3 patch 1.12.... Very much a small task but still a big download just for that fix.

Will there be "Custom Maps" section in RA3 patch 1.12? Please???? Some people are waiting to play real-time SP custom mission maps.]]> http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/275951.page http://forums.commandandconquer.com/jforum/posts/preList/17103/275951.page GMT