caralimon wrote:
Let's say we have 5 TanBuster against a Hammer Tank, or five if you will, coming at them. 5 TBusters need two rounds to kill one of the Hammers (60x5 = 300 x2 rounds = 600 >550), so in 1.5 secs one hammer is scrap metal since it gets in range of TBusters fire.

Now, 5 Javelins have a Hammer or five coming at them, they need 5 rounds to kill one Hammer (25x5 = 125 x 5 rounds = 625 >550), so it takes them 2.66 secs to kill a hammer since it gets in their range of fire, 1.16 secs longer than TBusters, nearly double their time. Granted, no damage is lost since 3 javelins (25x3 = 75) fire at another Hammer in the fifth round.

What's the Javelins' problem here? Well, in those 1.16 additional seconds, they may very well get run over by the hammer/s, so they might not even be able to shoot that fifth round and not kill one darn hammer. Meanwhile, TBusters kill a hammer in those 1.5 secs and then hide in their spider holes before they get run over by other hammers. What more do you need man?

Besides, your example is an interested one due to the tank you chose, because if we talk about Guardian Tanks for example, that have 480 health, a TBuster needs 8 shots to kill one of them, and no damage is lost, while a Javelin Soldier needs 20 shots to kill it and 20 worth of damage is lost.

caralimon wrote:
Yeah, but 1 or 2 extra seconds make a huge difference in a fast game like RA3, and 1 extra javelin = 300$ isn't negligible either.
The high damage per shot of TBusters is also extremely useful in garrison for example, a tank that dares to enter the range of fire of a building full of TBusters for just a frame (0.03 secs) is almost done for good, while garrisoned javelins will need a good pair of seconds more in range and line of sight to finish off that very same tank.

evotech wrote:@ OP: TBs used rarely? lol, you muust be on ***

At every point in the game, empire has filled their army with TBs, making it nearly impossible to kill

caralimon wrote:

Nahilus wrote:

caralimon wrote:.......

Your stats are bullshit, as Javelins and Tankbusters deal nearly the same amount of damage. This is proven not only by the DPS stat but also by ingame testing, a Javelin will always kill a target a mere fraction of a second after a Tankbuster.

You sure, huh? Well, here are some ingame testing, i can't record a movie for the moment but you can try them yourself:

4 Javelins against 1 Tengu ---> Tengu dead, 1 Javelin dead, another lighlty damaged.
4 TBusters against 1 Tengu ---> Tengu dead, no TBusters dead, 1 at roughly 25% health.

5 Javelins against 1 Sickle ---> Sickle dead, 1 Javelin dead, annother lightly damaged.
5 TBusters against 1 Sickle ---> Sickle dead, no TBuster dead, 1 at roughly 25% health.

Cost for cost against Sickle:
3 Javelins against 1 Sickle ---> Sickle dead, 2 Javelins dead, 1 at full health.
3 Tbusters against 1 Sickle ---> Sickle dead, 1 Tbuster dead, another with health at 50%.

Of Course, Flak Troopers take far more time and casualties to kill Sickles and Tengus, and their flak mines are worth nothing cos they have to close in while Sickles and Tengus can kite them and kill them as they come. And, again, all this at 100$ more than their more effective Allies and Empire counterparts .

Now, keep saying Javelins and Tank Busters deal nearly the same amount of damage, when everybody knows Tbusters are quite a bit more effective at killing tanks, and not taking into account their very effective secondary ability.

Dwelf wrote:guys the reason why allies is higher is becaus the top allied players are better then the top sov/empire players in general. its always been like that, the reason why top allied have always won all the important tournaments is because they are the better player.