Conscript needs a buff?

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If you ask me a conscript is to weak even for it's cheap price. 7 Peacekeepers can take out 18 conscripts. And that with a Peacekeeper costing 200 and a conscript 100!
The most retarded is that 2 conscripts can't even kill and engineer that is moving in to capture a building. And that for a unit that has (if we can believe it's profile) a POWERFUL assault rifle. Well if 2 can't even kill an engi in time before it captures well than I think it's more of a toy then a gun.
And don't start saying: ''But it haz molotov.''
Well the molotov sux. Cuz by the time your cons have thrown 1 bottle there are 4 cons already dead on the ground. And if ur opponent is not retarded then he will move his units just a bit to avoid it and then start shooting again.

This is why I suggest to buff the firepower of a conscripts.

its the peacekeeper which is op imo

1) reduce build time from 4 secs to 3 or 2.
2) nerf Peacekeeper slightly. They are supposed to beat Conscripts, just by less.

If you buff them then maybe their price needs to increase, well currently they are the cheapest units in the whole game. Also worse.

They would be much stronger if they could change their weapons in an instant, and their AK-47 need a major buff, or they could do damage to all units in the 1x1 coz they aren't trained very well and miss often. Or just Peacekeepers needs to do less damage.

Conscripts are supposed to ***...they can clear garrisons and are cheap as dirt. If you are looking for a unit to counter PKs then mass bears, which are tough as nails.

About the 2 conscript not being to kill an engineer is a f**ing joke I had to sell half my base just to stop 1 engineer ifv rush cause I had no units at that point, he just kept turtling his engineer as soon as I sell cuz my lolnubscripts are holding BB guns and he finally got to my refinery which was one of the 2 buildings left, that and my conyard.

I was skirmishing the other day and like 5 conscripts got taken down by 2 imperial warriors, 1 veteran and 1 not. And no no lightsabers just pure shooting.

So thats something to think about.

Caustic wrote:Conscripts are supposed to ***...they can clear garrisons and are cheap as dirt. If you are looking for a unit to counter PKs then mass bears, which are tough as nails.

He does have a point although a slight buff is needed so that they can deal with engineers. The anti infantry for the soviets is the armoured bear which can deal with small groups of infanmtry pretty well. The conscripts advantage is their secondary ability as molotovs are fairly effective against vehicles as well as infantry.

Do not nerf pk, its a shotgun, and shotguns have always been symbols of power.

As for the engi thing, what engis are you talking about, the empire ones? I have always been able to kill engis on time with conscripts, except for a few and those have always been japanese ones in sprint mode, and thats fine, thats what that mode is for.

Conscripts are supposed to be absolutely weak, and yes its a powerful assualt rifle but the conscripts are hardly trained. "Training VIDEO"
They are fine the way they are.

Lord-Vale3 wrote:Do not nerf pk, its a shotgun, and shotguns have always been symbols of power.

As for the engi thing, what engis are you talking about, the empire ones? I have always been able to kill engis on time with conscripts, except for a few and those have always been japanese ones in sprint mode, and thats fine, thats what that mode is for.

Conscripts are supposed to be absolutely weak, and yes its a powerful assualt rifle but the conscripts are hardly trained. "Training VIDEO"
They are fine the way they are.

They are fine the way they are? You gotta be kidding me. And no Im not talking about the japanese ones im talking about the allied ones. *** right conscripts are absolutely weak, but their also absolutely useless.

The difference between the conscript and pk and just too big. PKs only cost 200 for their Aoe Effect heavy damage burst that pushes back bears and dogs and with a shield that can withstand a sh*tload of damage and they can also bring down a building very fast. Conscripts only have their weak guns and molotovs only good for burning down a dried up bush.

molotov cocktails kill shielded PK in one hit
so sickles + conscripts >>> PK

H911Reiver wrote:molotov cocktails kill shielded PK in one hit
so sickles + conscripts >>> PK

Yeah, seen some skilled players use Bears and Conscripts together.

Bear attacks and PK's goes into shield mode. Roar and stun them.
Use molotovs to one-hit-kill all stunned PK's.

I thought peace keepers with their shields up couldn't be stunned? I also saw a video where an Imperial Warrior with his lightsaber out could not be stunned, and killed about 5 or 6 bears because they just kept using their secondary ability.

Fitz wrote:I thought peace keepers with their shields up couldn't be stunned? I also saw a video where an Imperial Warrior with his lightsaber out could not be stunned, and killed about 5 or 6 bears because they just kept using their secondary ability.

They can, but strangely enough, they cannot be attacked by bears while stunned if they have their shield up. That's where the conscripts come in.

Still, there is the issue that the conscripts coming from a sold building can't kill engies in time. That needs to be fixed.

Molotov works good at clearing out buildings without severely damaging the building.

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