How do you defeat this

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i was forced in autoplay to face the same person 5 times and he used the same stategy every time and won. He was Reaper and i was black hand. He would build about five buzzers to scout. Then he would build three disinigrators to defend his harvester. Then he would build a warp sphere and a nerve center and then build two devourer tanks and two corrupters. This is wihtin five minutes of battle. He would then attack my base. The devourers would be charged with tib and destroy any tanks while his corrupter would heal them. If i built too many rockets he would use buzzer storm. If i made many tankes he would use ligthning spike. i cant rush him with bikes cause the disingrators kill them. I cant rush with infantry because buzzers.

Ok, if I'm correct, 5 time would give you the upper hand to know that he would be using this strat? He obviosly keep using it against you because it worked.

As Black hand? hmm..

If you were to go on Rush attack - use those flame tanks with mixed infantry squads - this would wipe him out early on if he only had some devourers early on..

If you need to defend - best to use Beam Cannons - back them up with yes rocket troops + something anti infa try against those buzzers - grab some of the militia guys.. they will take care of it
5 or more beam cannons take down those devourer tanks in a few seconds. You can even use the rocket troops to attack the corrupters

These kinds of fights are nothing compared to facing up againse the n00bapod..

Rush.

Otherwise, build one or two Rocket Reckoners and deploy it next to your WarFac. Essentially invincible.

You could also just spam Rocketmen.

Hennerst3 wrote:Ok, if I'm correct, 5 time would give you the upper hand to know that he would be using this strat? He obviosly keep using it against you because it worked.

As Black hand? hmm..

If you were to go on Rush attack - use those flame tanks with mixed infantry squads - this would wipe him out early on if he only had some devourers early on..

If you need to defend - best to use Beam Cannons - back them up with yes rocket troops + something anti infa try against those buzzers - grab some of the militia guys.. they will take care of it
5 or more beam cannons take down those devourer tanks in a few seconds. You can even use the rocket troops to attack the corrupters

These kinds of fights are nothing compared to facing up againse the n00bapod..

reaper17 doesnt have a noobapod, t59 and vscrin do, r17's is balanced cause of no wtfprodigy and lolmastermind

Allosaursrule1st wrote:

Hennerst3 wrote:Ok, if I'm correct, 5 time would give you the upper hand to know that he would be using this strat? He obviosly keep using it against you because it worked.

As Black hand? hmm..

If you were to go on Rush attack - use those flame tanks with mixed infantry squads - this would wipe him out early on if he only had some devourers early on..

If you need to defend - best to use Beam Cannons - back them up with yes rocket troops + something anti infa try against those buzzers - grab some of the militia guys.. they will take care of it
5 or more beam cannons take down those devourer tanks in a few seconds. You can even use the rocket troops to attack the corrupters

These kinds of fights are nothing compared to facing up againse the n00bapod..

reaper17 doesnt have a noobapod, t59 and vscrin do, r17's is balanced cause of no wtfprodigy and lolmastermind

lol.. you right.. though it's halfway there with phased shield... there goes your EMP upgrade.... useless..

tbh I think the phase feild annoys me even more than teleporting atm

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you were to go on Rush attack - use those flame tanks with mixed infantry squads - this would wipe him out early on if he only had some devourers early on..

I used that but he used buzzer swarm behind my tanks taking out my infanry and by the time i got to his base he had his devourers up already and he wiped out my flame tanks. Also

Otherwise, build one or two Rocket Reckoners and deploy it next to your WarFac

i did that but he just went around them and took out the rest of my base instead. The only one i havent tried was

best to use Beam Cannons - back them up with yes rocket troops + something anti infa try against those buzzers - grab some of the militia guys..

i hope that works.

Allosaursrule1st wrote:

Hennerst3 wrote:Ok, if I'm correct, 5 time would give you the upper hand to know that he would be using this strat? He obviosly keep using it against you because it worked.

As Black hand? hmm..

If you were to go on Rush attack - use those flame tanks with mixed infantry squads - this would wipe him out early on if he only had some devourers early on..

If you need to defend - best to use Beam Cannons - back them up with yes rocket troops + something anti infa try against those buzzers - grab some of the militia guys.. they will take care of it
5 or more beam cannons take down those devourer tanks in a few seconds. You can even use the rocket troops to attack the corrupters

These kinds of fights are nothing compared to facing up againse the n00bapod..

reaper17 doesnt have a noobapod, t59 and vscrin do, r17's is balanced cause of no wtfprodigy and lolmastermind

Yes but the traveler dont get tanks and are weaker so they requier micro and skill to defeat their enemys. The only things that cause u a problem are the mastermind and well microed infantry and Hexpod.

lol are people still using that strat

lol are people still using that strat

It's a good tactic if you can micro devouers.

TonTheTerror, a very well done cor+dev rush will get to your base right when your 5th harvester is about to pop out.
So here's what you do: get 2 ref / 4 harvs economy up and start spamming bikes, as soon as you have 9+ bikes take out one of his devouers in 1 run, fall back for a few seconds, then repeat the same to take down second devouer tank.
With some micro your bikes will finish his face in no time.
You might want to get a 2nd WF up too with your 5th harvester after you killed his Devs to completely overwhelm him.

The key is to know it's coming. Once you know it's coming you can properly prepare. Next's suggestion is golden as is the Beam Cannon suggestion. Either will work

TonTheTerror wrote:i was forced in autoplay to face the same person 5 times and he used the same stategy every time and won. He was Reaper and i was black hand. He would build about five buzzers to scout. Then he would build three disinigrators to defend his harvester. Then he would build a warp sphere and a nerve center and then build two devourer tanks and two corrupters. This is wihtin five minutes of battle. He would then attack my base. The devourers would be charged with tib and destroy any tanks while his corrupter would heal them. If i built too many rockets he would use buzzer storm. If i made many tankes he would use ligthning spike. i cant rush him with bikes cause the disingrators kill them. I cant rush with infantry because buzzers.

blackhand manspam my man, I bet u could do it with some very good micro.
1: don't the concab's just pwn buzzers?
2: get to his base b4 he can tech up to nerve center so he can't use the buzzer swarm.
Though I will say, haven't had this strat used on me so dunno 4 sure if it will work, but its worth a try.
Also, could u post a replay of this match?

next wrote:

lol are people still using that strat

It's a good tactic if you can micro devouers.

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lmao at micro
corrptor devourer is a sure-fire way of killing noobs and mid players with very little effort

you can have 3 buggies and 3 bikes in his base faster than he can have his 2dev and 2cor in yours

buggies will own his disingrators and buzzers and bikes take out his hvr (he will have 2, 3 at the most)
now spam rocketters with a few confessors and u should come out on top

First of all, this rush will get to you WAAAY before that 5th harvester, or even the 4th.
Second, this rush eats noobs alive.

Third, the absolute best way to beat this as Nod is to build an Operations Center after your War Factory, put a couple Shredder Turrets near your Hand of Nod/War Factory to protect from Buzzers, and spam Beam Cannons and Rocketmen. Make sure you have an equal economy to your opponent, and you will beat the rush every time. Also make sure you target his Corrupters first, then the tanks. If he has a Stasis Chamber, this means he will use the Stasis Shield to stop your units from firing while he kills your harvesters; therefore, if you see he has it, you should spread your units out as much as possible.

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